Reformed Churchmen

We are Confessional Calvinists and a Prayer Book Church-people. In 2012, we remembered the 350th anniversary of the 1662 Book of Common Prayer; also, we remembered the 450th anniversary of John Jewel's sober, scholarly, and Reformed "An Apology of the Church of England." In 2013, we remembered the publication of the "Heidelberg Catechism" and the influence of Reformed theologians in England, including Heinrich Bullinger's Decades. For 2014: Tyndale's NT translation. For 2015, John Roger, Rowland Taylor and Bishop John Hooper's martyrdom, burned at the stakes. Books of the month. December 2014: Alan Jacob's "Book of Common Prayer" at: http://www.amazon.com/Book-Common-Prayer-Biography-Religious/dp/0691154813/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1417814005&sr=8-1&keywords=jacobs+book+of+common+prayer. January 2015: A.F. Pollard's "Thomas Cranmer and the English Reformation: 1489-1556" at: http://www.amazon.com/Thomas-Cranmer-English-Reformation-1489-1556/dp/1592448658/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1420055574&sr=8-1&keywords=A.F.+Pollard+Cranmer. February 2015: Jaspar Ridley's "Thomas Cranmer" at: http://www.amazon.com/Thomas-Cranmer-Jasper-Ridley/dp/0198212879/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1422892154&sr=8-1&keywords=jasper+ridley+cranmer&pebp=1422892151110&peasin=198212879

Saturday, March 13, 2010

Presbyterian Scholar: Dr. Carl Trueman on the Decline of Mainline Protestantism


http://media.townhallstore.com/jm/rs/jm_rs_20100312a_Fri_47ccca4a-eadc-4e99-ba40-9c86fcaac7f5_radio-show_Hi.mp3

Carl Trueman on the decline of mainline Protestantism.

Dr. Carl Trueman on the Janet Mefferd Show re: liberalism.

Dr. Trueman is Professor of Historical Theology and Church History at Westminster Theological Seminary. The high price of compromise.

6 comments:

Kepha said...

Yes, Mainline "Protestant" churches are pretty kaputt. But, maybe the reason is that they gave up on real theology long ago. Give so-called Evangelicals another generation on the same trajectory, and they'll be at the same place.

Reformation said...

That my sense in sectors of the evangelical world, to wit, one generation away from a doctrinal collapse. Concur.

Anonymous said...

It seems that they were taken afield by a misapprehension of the Reformation principle of sola Scriptura. Intellectuals in almost every generation--at least since producing some new thesis became de rigueur in obtaining a doctorate--start with the premise that they know better than all who have gone before them.

So they, beginning in the 18th century, became dissatisfied with the Bible text delivered to them. Biblical theology became divorced from dogmatics, and gradually attempted to become more
"scientific".

From there it was not hard to de-theologize the study of the Bible. The problem with that was that with that came a less reverent approach to the Bible--a belief that this was just another ancient document like the Ras Hamra Tablets, the Book of the Dead, etc., to be examined, criticized, and theorized over.

The problem was, the men doing that taught the pastors of the "main line" churches. Until about sixty years ago, the pastors kept those things out of their preaching, but they have gradually let the cat out of the bag--and it is a hungry tiger, devouring the people it was supposed to feed.

Reformation said...

Ken, I am always edified by your presence and comments. Ad fontes.

Anonymous said...

This has been on my mind for some time..... It does lead to other issues...
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Kepha said...

I'm not completely against understanding the history behind the biblical text. After all, a lot of biblical theology is remembering (passover and the Lord's Supper, for starters).

Perhaps another "cat out of the bag" was, from our Presbyterian/Reformed standpoint, the idea of social compact. When large swaths of our people failed to internalize the theologize that originally nurtured such an idea, the social compact idea "secularized", turned around, and devoured its Christian parent.